Now what's Obama up to?

Okay he released them but....

Rajah's picture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw9nqW0W1Sk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG9Nj0OizCA

these should help counter the claim that Maddow and Olbermann are just tools for the Obama administration. They have taken him to task many times when he's just plain wrong. I sort of get why Obama is doing this, he doesn't want to country to get bogged down in these trials. Okay, I understand that you're busy with the turd sandwich Bush and Cheney left you but why block anybody else from pursuing them in their war crimes? If you ignore the past it's just as bad as condoning it. Let us cleanse ourselves of this dirty past by trying these fiends!

It's because Obama wants to get things done...

MH's picture

Putting Bush administration people on trial for war crimes might be cathartic and the right thing to do, but it's also political suicide - the government gets bogged down in these trials, the right (including independents who currently aren't with the Limbaugh-types) solidifies, it gets called a "partisan witch hunt" (and some people will say its payback for the Clinton impeachment), etc.  If Obama does this now, he's basically throwing his first term away in the middle of a war and an economic crisis.  Having said that, I do disagree with him in that I think these things should be further looked into and that someone should be held accountable (even if its some bureocrat or something).

Yep, that's pretty much the reason in a nutshell

Rajah's picture

Damn if he does, damn if he don't. Still it doesn't make him look good to the people who did vote for him. It looks like he's covering for Bush.

Senator Leahy will be happy to investigate the CIA/Bush torture

Dan_in_Cincinnati's picture

Obama can keep his hands clean.  Let Leahy do the dirty work.  Here are some quotes from the liberal NY Times concerning the Bush memos that Obama released because of pressure from the American Civil Liberties Union:

Together, the four memos give an extraordinarily detailed account of the C.I.A.’s methods and the Justice Department’s long struggle, in the face of graphic descriptions of brutal tactics, to square them with international and domestic law. Passages describing forced nudity, the slamming of detainees into walls, prolonged sleep deprivation [for 11 days straight] and the dousing of detainees with water as cold as 41 degrees [and water boarding] alternate with elaborate legal arguments concerning the international Convention Against Torture.

Within minutes of the release of the memos, Senator Pat Leahy (the Vermont Democrat who is chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee) said that the memos illustrated the need for his proposed independent commission of inquiry, which would offer immunity in return for candid testimony.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/17/us/politics/17detain.html

{;-) Dan in Miami

Obama to prosecute Bush war criminals?

Dan_in_Cincinnati's picture

The Washington Post today is saying that originally Obama opposed
investigating or prosecuting the Bush lawyers who wrote memos
 the CIA used to justify their torture of terror suspects.

Now he has explicitly said that those lawyers may be investigated. 
He has acknowledged that Congress may do so with or without his permission.
In addition his Democratic base has been outraged with the idea that the Bushies
might get away with torture.  So like any politician he can be seen as accepting the
inevitable.  Don't blame him if some Republicans end up in jail.

http://tinyurl.com/cv5j6q

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/04/21/ST20090421...

{;-) Dan in Miami
 

This seems like the smart way to do it

MH's picture

Let the AG and an independent commission handle it, rather then having it consume his whole administration.  Granted, I'm a bit iffy on letting the people who actually did the torture off, but I figure that its a case of letting the little fish go in order to go after the big fish (same thing you'd do in, say, a Mafia investigation).  I sincerely doubt Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, or any of the other top tier Bush administration people will get busted, but I'm hoping that someone higher on the food chain then, say, Lynndie England gets busted...

I'm hoping this will eventually lead to the Republicans actually becoming a sane 21st century party (instead of going in the increasingly backwards direction of Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck), but I'm not holding my breath.

 

Obama and Monica Lewinski

Dan_in_Cincinnati's picture

Another great Mike Thompson cartoon:

 

 

 

{;-) Dan (panic in Detroit) in Miami

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