Is Obama a Marxist? Are you?
I was listening to some right wing call-in show on the radio, and the ridiculousness of the calls was what really got me.
A guy calls in and says, "what are we gonna do about this marxist Obama? We gotta do something, we gotta do something."
While the host didn't deny the statement of Obama being a marxist, he went on to berade the caller saying, "What are you gonna do? Call my show? Is that what you're going to do? The caller began to say that he was gonna tell his friends and... he was cut off by the host, who said that acions speak louder than words and so on. It was funny, but it missed the point, BECAUSE!!!!.......
--Obama is not a Marxist
--Obama is not a Communist
--Obama is not a Socialist, or is he?
Obama is a Democrat, Democrats are neither communists, nor marxists. Before you begin to debate me on this, lets define these terms, I've summerized them off wikipedia:
Marxism -- A lot of political and social ideologies written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels that mostly pertain to the problem of class struggles that ensue as a result of capitalism. To put it simply, rich people own the business, and the not so rich people work for them. This creates tension between the social classes. Lots of criticism is given towards capitalism, and the solution of communism is suggested, where society would be classless. I'm assuming not enoough was said about how to acheive this.
Communism (as quoted in wiki) -- Karl Marx posited that communism would be the final stage in human society, which would be achieved through a proletarian revolution. "Pure communism" in the Marxian sense refers to a classless, stateless and oppression-free society where decisions on what to produce and what policies to pursue are made democratically, allowing every member of society to participate in the decision-making process in both the political and economic spheres of life.
Although many attempts have been made to create communist societies, none have reached the would-be communist utopia that I think Karl Marx was shooting for.
Socialism -- Wiki quote: Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society, and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society. Therefore socialists advocate the creation of a society in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly based on the amount of work expended in production, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.
The best I can see with this, is that the same issue exists in terms of the class problem, (poor people being dominated by the rich) but the methods by which this can be fixed are way more broad, almost to the point where I think that any attempt made to fix differences between social classes can be considered socialist in some way. From helping the poor, to nationalized medicare, to full blown communism, all can be considered forms of socialism. The term is way too broad to really be defined as one thing, all you have to do to be labeled a socialist, is to want to help a lower class succeed. Hence the debate as to weather or not Obama, and democrats as a whole, can be considered socialists. One thing is true, Obama and the dems still support capitalism and don't want to do away with it,
The term socialism is usually paired with communism, but the two are not the same thing. Communism is an aspect of socialism, but not all socialism is communism.
Lets dig into this Obama thing.
Obama was a rich lawyer who now lives in a large white house mansion, and is president of the United States. Obama has never said that capitalism should be done away with. Obama has never advocated the creation of a classless society, therefore, Obama is not a marxist.
For the same reason mentioned above Obama cannot be considered a communist.
It would seem to me, that anyone who wants to help the poor, is a socialist. Since republicans are the ones pointing the finger these days, it would seem to me that if you're not a republican, and you think society and america has problems that need fixing, you are a socialist. Therefore, Obama is a socialist.
Now let's get religious.
Jesus can be considered a socialist because he wanted to help the poor.
The apostles can be considered communists, check this out...
During the acts of the apostles, Acts 4:31-37 Peter and his congregation were joined together as one, by the pouring out of the Holy Spirit, (Quote Acts 4:32) "And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart, and of one soul: neither said any of them, that ought of the things which he possesed was his own; but had all things common."
(Quote Acts 34-35) "Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many were possesors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, and laid them at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need."
Wow, so these early christains, some of who were apostles could very well be considered communists and socialists. And since this all happened via the Spirit of God, can one say that God is a communist as well?
Many republicans are christians, does this mean that christian republicans can be considered communists or socialists if they believe this verse?
Maybe it's safer to say that people should stop trying to put a label on anyone that trys to make society or life better. People should stop putting labels on each other every time someone disagrees with someone else. God isn't a communist, he simply did what he did in that instance, and you just need to stop using that word as a definition of His or any other person's actions. You need to stop using the words democrat, republican, socialist, marxist or communist, because based on everything I just said, chances are you're a little of all five and you just don't know it. Therefore, stop labeling people with these terms.