American History X
Mr. Cranky's rating:
This is just what America needs: awildly egotistic Brit giving morality lessons on Skinheads.
This is Tony Kaye's directorial debut, but somewhere along the way, Kayegot the idea that he was already Stanley Kubrick and demanded all kinds of
additional time to edit. The studio denied him that time and allowed
star Edward Norton to go in and edit the film so that it could
be released. This so infuriated Kaye that he took out a major newspaper
ad chiding the studio and went around everywhere he could crying like a
baby. He also wanted the notorious "directed by Alan Smithee" tag on
this film, but that too was denied him. Maybe what Kaye needs is a
nipple and a blankie.
This is just what America needs: a wildly egotistic Brit giving morality
lessons on Skinheads. Not only do I doubt Kaye's understanding of the
subject, but I'm pretty sure a personality is required before you can
give lessons on human dysfunction. Naturally, the Vinyard family is
quite dysfunctional. Derek (Edward Norton) is a skinhead leader. His
younger brother, Danny (Edward Furlong) idolizes him. Their mother
(Beverly D'Angelo) looks as astute as a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader who's
accidentally walked into a biogenetics conference.
When Derek kills a couple of black kids trying to steal his truck -- and
get back at him for an embarrassment on the basketball court -- Derek is
sent to prison. This propels Danny deeper into the world favored by his
brother while it actually changes Derek, who discovers in prison that
black people are okay. Just like that. Derek's in the shower, some white
toughs decide to reenact the 1939 invasion of Poland (with Derek playing
the part of Poland), and from then on he realizes bad people are bad
people and good people are good people and generally, the good ones
don't sodomize you. He works with a black guy in the laundry room who
doesn't sodomize him and, faster than you can say "it doesn't get any
better than this," they become best buds and Derek's tune changes
completely.
It's this conversion that plays so suspiciously. One second Derek's a
white supremacist prick and the next second he's St. Derek, the equality
angel, out to protect his family from the bad people who haven't seen
the light. If all it takes is a little sodomy to turn a skinhead around,
I think we have a whole new angle on rehabilitation.
Was it really that bad?
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what utter racist prejudice stupid crap this movie was.. hells_end
what utter racist prejudice stupid crap this movie was hells_end
whats up with racism''''''' JohnBoy19
whats up with racism JohnBoy19
I have to agree with Mr. Cranky on this one mtn
Public Apology to Jessalyn Leyra Karen_G
Skinheads Rule whiteprideskin
So, I admit it. amyf19
If you're black,fuck off if_youre_black_FU-Q
Skinheads = Racists = STUPID MISCONCEPTION killthepoor
"Nortman" deniro_is_god
Learn to review EdwardNortonFan
American History X Linzie14
go pick your head out of your arse cranky! spastic_lemon
LOL - this is JUST BULLSHIT smash
Whoever says that this movie sucks I have no respect for smash
im surprised mr cranky doesn't go after the basketball scene doctor_ahhhrr
Man, that cracked me up! PsychoRabbit
Some reason, please! young_critic
whatever (korn57)
Mr. Cranky is a mindless waste of skin. (tankabbot)
I'll hold Crank down, you sodomize him (ClarenceBeaks)
Gee, that's some pretty literate comment (beauregard)
I am an ASIAN Skinhead (69book)
'brits' on skinheads (omc)
Molesting Orgy (THEY_LIVE)
white power (rockyhorror)
skinheads (crimson48)
Damn Hans King (Junk_Yard_Dog)
American History X review was all wrong (phish)
KING OF THE THREAD (Sgt_Gump)
Edward Norton certifiably is the best thing to happen to movies in the 90's (Veruca_Salt)
Let us bow our heads and pray (Junk_Yard_Dog)
Why this movie is FUNDAMENTALLY flawed... (Lt_Dan)
I PROPOSE A CONTEST! (Crazed_Leper)
THE LONGEST FALL -- a sequel to THE MAYAN IDOL (Richard_B_Bernstein)
The Longest Fall - Chapter 2 . . . (Hairhead)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL -- a sequel to THE MAYAN IDOL (Wulfgar010)
oh, bother...<NT> (Wulfgar010)
THE LONGEST FALL -- chapter 3 (Richard_B_Bernstein)
THE LONGEST FALL -- chapter 4 [for Wulfgar] (Richard_B_Bernstein)
The Longest Fall -- Chapter 4 (Hairhead)
The Longest Fall -- Chapter 5a (Hairhead)
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THE LONGEST FALL -- the latest installment (Richard_B_Bernstein)
An observation (Junk_Yard_Dog)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL (Wulfgar010)
THE LONGEST FALL -- next installment (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL: Curiouser... (Wulfgar010)
THE LONGEST FALL -- next installment below (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL -- a sequel to THE MAYAN IDOL (Namagomi)
Namagomi-chan, who says you're dead? Maybe and maybe not... [nt] (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard, so POST something, already<NT> (Wulfgar010)
OR, better yet... (Wulfgar010)
THE LONGEST FALL -- latest installment (Richard_B_Bernstein)
-_-* (Namagomi)
Now, this is really weird (Junk_Yard_Dog)
Take a look at... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Happy Turkey. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL: Discord-ant tones... (Wulfgar010)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL: Queen to Pawn 3... (Wulfgar010)
THE LONGEST FALL -- next installment (just when I thought I was going home) (Richard_B_Bernstein)
RE: Take a look at this... (Namagomi)
Ack! (Siren)
Siren . . . (Hairhead)
THE LONGEST FALL -- a sequel... (Wulfgar010)
The Longest Fall -- Getting Down to Brass Tacks (Hairhead)
The Longest Fall -- Hitting the Mat (Hairhead)
THE LONGEST FALL -- Reassembling the Pieces (Richard_B_Bernstein)
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The Longest Fall . . . Why & Wherefore (Hairhead)
The Longest Fall -- At the Jailhouse (Hairhead)
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Re: THE LONGEST FALL -- home on the strange II (Wulfgar010)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL -- Queen for a Day... (Wulfgar010)
The Longest Fall -- Closing in on Oblivion . . . (Hairhead)
THE LONGEST FALL -- disk slipping my mind (Richard_B_Bernstein)
THE LONGEST FALL -- life's lust and mortality's dust. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
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oh, bother II... (Wulfgar010)
Message to Wulfgar (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL -- A Bridge Over troubled posts... (Wulfgar010)
Richard... (Wulfgar010)
THE LONGEST FALL -- voices in the dark [collaboration between RBB & Wulfgar (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL: Hey, that's pretty good... (Wulfgar010)
...however... (Wulfgar010)
THE LONGEST FALL -- no cut, no paste (another RBB/Wulfgar collaboration) (Richard_B_Bernstein)
THE LONGEST FALL -- grilling without charcoal (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Wulfgar/RBB -- It's my turn now . . (Hairhead)
THE LONGEST FALL -- in the cold light of day (Richard_B_Bernstein)
HairHead...so WRITE, already, you damned Canuck, or I'll haveta get... (Wulfgar010)
The Longest Fall -- Closer to Culmination (Hairhead)
I call dibs on next chapter! *NT* (speaker4dead)
The Longest Fall -- Yeah, we're getting there! (Hairhead)
like I said, so WRITE, already...Icall dibs on th' next one after that<NT> (Wulfgar010)
Nice, except... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
I think the hound sound be the one to solve this (Junk_Yard_Dog)
JYD -- welcome! (Richard_B_Bernstein)
The Longest Fall -- The Explanation (Hairhead)
Question (Namagomi)
Okay, JYD/anybody else . . (Hairhead)
Ooh! (Namagomi)
Allright, from now on, when a person calls a chapter they call THE CHAPTER! (speaker4dead)
Speaker, dude, the same... (Wulfgar010)
THE LONGEST FALL -- The Bigger They Are... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Sorry, but these threads have to be tied up.... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Longest Fall: The Dark New Figure (speaker4dead)
We need some sort of join to hold the two lines together. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
About writing ettiquette . . . (Hairhead)
THE LONGEST FALL: connective tissue (Richard_B_Bernstein)
More on posting etiquette in Crankyland collaborative fiction (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Frankly... (Wulfgar010)
Wulfgar, my Scottish friend... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
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More ettiquette . . . (Hairhead)
Wulfgar . . (Hairhead)
The Cult isn't an actual cult...at least I wasn't planning to make it one. (speaker4dead)
Well, that's all from me tonight, I'm thinkin'... (Wulfgar010)
The next installment is up to someone else . . . (Hairhead)
THE LONGEST FALL -- mysterious interlude (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Oops, goddamnit. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
I'm not offended in the least (Namagomi)
What's that, Paine? Drink affecting your skills on setting type again? (Charles_James_Fox)
I call dibs on next chapter! It'll be up in an hour or so. *NT* (speaker4dead)
Charles, I'm not sure if that was an insult... (speaker4dead)
Speaker4dead (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Wulfgar (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Okay, I'm going to have to delay the next chapter for another half hour. (speaker4dead)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL -- a sequel to THE MAYAN IDOL (Namagomi)
The Longest Fall: A Stay At The Manor (speaker4dead)
Whew! (Bureaucrat)
The Longest Fall: The Final Showdown (speaker4dead)
*Ahem* . . . speaker4dead . . . (Hairhead)
okay... (Wulfgar010)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL -- Epilogue...Wulfgar's Musings... (Wulfgar010)
Ah Wulfgar . . . (Hairhead)
I really enjoyed this (Rochelle)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL -- a sequel to THE MAYAN IDOL (Wulfgar010)
Hmm. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Hmmm...II (Wulfgar010)
Well (Namagomi)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL --Jellyfish for everyone.... (Wulfgar010)
I am sadly disappointed (Junk_Yard_Dog)
From the paranoid side (Junk_Yard_Dog)
My thoughts on collaborating via e-mail. (speaker4dead)
Thoughts before bugging out for the weekend (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Grea piece of fanfic (Siren)
Re: THE LONGEST FALL... (Wulfgar010)
Richard, the issue is this (Pvt_Gump)
Hey, Hemingway! (Tick)
Sounds good to me tick (Pvt_Gump)
Im going with the flow here (Pvt_Gump)
Actually Tick, now that I really think about it (Pvt_Gump)
Aw, gee! (Tick)
I may have been out of line with that last comment Tick (Pvt_Gump)
Hey Gump! (Tick)
Yes Tick, I already had plans to piss on it (Pvt_Gump)
Heheheh (Tick)
ANYway... (Bureaucrat)
Re the Doc (Rochelle)
Gump, get the fuck outta here, you shithead!<NT> (Wulfgar010)
YO, Beaurocrat-mon... (Wulfgar010)
Wulf, I am sensing some hostility from you (Pvt_Gump)
Wulfgar (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard, Sword-Brother... (Wulfgar010)
Wulfgar (Richard_B_Bernstein)
yeah, but i think disco was... (Wulfgar010)
Well, it's one of the few things the little yimp is good at, eh? (Richard_B_Bernstein)
hey, he can actually be funny when he's not... (Wulfgar010)
Hoping this thread does not get deleted on transfer to the basement. (Junk_Yard_Dog)
ooops (Junk_Yard_Dog)
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