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09/15/1999: Emerald... Posted by: mendo@mcn.org (mendo)
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you continue to pass judgement on me for my taste in women... who the fuck are you to do that... and like I said (if you even bother to read all of my posts) give me a real email addy and I'll shoot you some .jpg's of nude Uma and Gwynnie (and topless of Cameron) that will shoot your "skin and bones argument all to hell...
.tom
what a fucking inflated ego you seem to have...
do you lecture thin women IRL? "Hey, honey... I don't approve of your weight?"
09/15/1999: I didn't want to say it..
Posted by: sparkling@aol.com (Emerald)
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..I've bit my lip.
I've repressed and repressed, but now I have to:
You are an angry pisshead.
There..
whew!
I'm not passing jusdgement in your taste in women. Enough of that, already!! I said 'I don't understand why guys like skinny girls with visible bones'. If you like skinny girls that's you business. I'm not trying to pass judgement. After I stated my opinion, I said "Maybe that doesn't make sense to you"
Perhaps we should BOTH take reading comprehension classes.
Study study study,
--Emerald
09/15/1999: And, no..
Posted by: sparkling@aol.com (Emerald)
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..I don't tell skinny women I don't approve of their weight. You either made an unfunny half-assed joke, or you're really REALLY stupid. I hope it was the first one.
The tone of your posts makes me want to bash my head into the keyboard. It's so annoying--(although I'm sure the feeling is mutual!).
It seems like your debating tactics are fueled solely on your anger. It just makes you look ignorant. Take a chill pill and come back when you've unclenched your fists. You know, it's harder to type that way..
fmMiUkMyoUWd,
--Emerald
09/15/1999: Masterless..
Posted by: sparkling@aol.com (Emerald)
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..I don't expect men not to want women..but if they could just make it less obvious!!
Criminey..
I mean, oh great, I'm being whistled at by a baby chick. I'm being honked at! What fun! If they think women enjoy this, they should be castrated..
(pause)..
WITHOUT anesthesia
chopping off mr. happy,
--Emerald
09/15/1999: Emerald...DEAL WITH IT. <nt> Posted by: meth102@hotmail.com (Masterless)
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No text, dammit.
09/15/1999: Yes, sir! <nt>
Posted by: sparkling@aol.com (Emerald)
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fuck you, bitch.
09/15/1999: Emerald...
Posted by: no_life@all.tom (mendo)
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in what started out as a perfectly friendly thread, with no provocation whatsoever, you call me a pedophile, because of my taste in women... and now you say:
>..I've bit my lip.
I've repressed and repressed, but now I have to:
You are an angry pisshead.<
You, my dear, are fucked up... all of my original posts in this thread were meant to be taken lightly... I've NEVER gotten into a hassle with you before... but you insist on picking a fight w/ me... and then call me an angry pisshead... fuck you... you seem to have an inflated ego here in Crankyland... for no apparant reason, I might add... or maybe it was the Casino rating... lol...
this afternoon I talked to two gals I know and told them about this situation, in separate conversations, and both of them came to the same conclusion that I did earlier... you must have a terrible weight problem... that's sad... only if you can't accept how you look... maybe you could try a balanced diet and exercise... or just not worry about your weight... It's your out-look on life that's fucked up, not you weight...
you are one of the most manipulative people I've ever come across... what a horrible thing... being so bitter that you lash out at someone who has never done anything to you... just to satisfy some sick need you have...
I'm happy being me...
I feel sorry for you...
see ya...
wouldn't want to be ya...
.tom
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09/15/1999: Breasts
Posted by: unstable@hotmail.com (Unstable_Isotope)
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First of all I just did an internet search for nude pictures of Uma, Gwyneth and Cameron. I'm fairly sure that Natalie and Claire haven't done in any real nude scenes yet, and Claire is without a doubt an A cup or less anyway. I think I found some of those pictures mendo keeps threatening to send Emerald.
Cameron was a model before she turned actress, and there are tons of nude pictures of her so you can get lots of views. She's pretty flat. She looks about like an A cup to me.
Gwyneth's bosum is definitely bigger than Cameron's, but not by a whole lot. I can't see how that's less than a B cup, from my knowledge of women's bust sizes. I think because her scenes in Shakespeare in Love are moving pictures, your view (geodesy) maybe somewhat distorted. I base my assessment mostly on the fact that Cameron's breasts look miniature compared to Gwyneth's, so if Cameron's an A, then how can Gwyneth be less than a B? But I will admit she doesn't quite look big enough to be a C. I probably got carried away there.
But there is no way in hell you can look at one of Uma's pictures and not say "BIG BOOBS." Just no freaking way. I do remember reading somewhere that she was a 36D so that's not a guess or a joke, but really, have any of you besides mendo even seen STILL pictures of her topless? We wouldn't even be having a debate about her if you had. And from what I can tell, they're probably real, too, because they droop like breasts of a woman her age. Those papparazi pictures also show off quite a round butt, too. I declare the Uma argument over.
Guessing cup sizes is a rather tricky ordeal. I've seen some women who claimed to be D-cups who I thought were as flat as... well, you know. But remember, cup size is nothing more than the difference between two measurements (above the breasts and across the nipples, I think), so there's a lot of margin for error. A woman who's 40 inches around above the breast and 44 inches around across the chest is going to look a lot different from a woman who's 28 inches around above the breast and 32 inches across the chest, but that's still 4 inches of difference, which I think makes a D cup, right, ladies? An inch a cup? Been a few years since I flipped through a lingerie magazine! And also some women's stomachs hide the size of their chest. Just something stuff to think about.
Oh, I can't post the links to those nude pictures. I've heard Mr. C doesn't like that. :-)
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09/15/1999: Emerald
Posted by: unstable@hotmail.com (Unstable_Isotope)
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mendo just pointed out some things I was going to but let me re-emphasize them because like skilly said in another thread, you're probably so mad at him that you're not caring what he says anymore.
You say that mendo is an angry pisshead. You accused mendo of being a pedophile several times before you said you might be being too harsh. Then you proceeded to call him pedophil-ISH a few times. I'm surprised you don't realize how mean of an insult "pedophile" is. Men have lost their jobs, their families, their lives over being falsely accused of that charge. And mendo's real name is common knowledge around here, I think. At least I know it, and I'm not around enough to know most anybody's real name other than Eamon and Richard!
Had you found some reason to accuse me of the same, I probably would have just shrugged it off. But that's because I'm young and single and don't have any kids and don't even hang around any kids and accusing me of being a pedophile is so silly it's funny! mendo has two or three young adult children, including a daughter, I think, so calling him a "pedophile" FOR ANY REASON probably strikes a pretty powerful nerve, don't you think? You're insinuating that he had the capability of lusting after his own children when they were young. If I had children and you called me a pedophile for any reason, maybe I'd be angry pisshead, too.
mendo has said some not so nice things to you as well, but you have to admit, he tolerated your very imflammatory pedophile accusations for quite a while before he finally snapped back.
And even though you're saying you're not passing judgment on him... I can't speak for anybody else but it really seemed like you were to me. You did say you found his behavior of SUPPOSEDLY liking women who are flat-chested and flat-bottomed to be "weird and sick." That's pretty darn judgmental. Qualifying it with "Maybe that doesn't make sense to you" doesn't change your tone. I mean, we as a society have to draw some lines. If mendo had claimed to be attracted to headless chickens, yeah, about 99.9 % of us would have agreed with you "that's weird and sick." But let's just say that he did say he was into women with flat-chests and flat-bottoms -- which he NEVER did and Uma proves that the conclusions you jumped to aren't quite valid anyway. I'm just guessing but I'd have to say at least 10 % of all women fit that flat description. What's wrong with a man being atracted to that 10 % of the population? Who's going to date those women if these "weird sick" men don't?
As for what you've said to me...
I don't remember when or where I read that you were a Jon Stewart fan. It was a couple months ago.
I don't necessarily think having bodyfat makes a woman healthy. Most female athletes have almost no body fat beyond their breasts, and they're healthier than almost all of the rest of us. They have muscle where most women would have fat so don't really have visible bones. Now if they got lost in a desert and had to live off their body fat, they'd be in a lot of trouble compared to an "average" woman, but in a normal Western Civ environment, they're probably going to live longer and healthier than any fat girl!
I was going to ask you if you thought it was right for all guys to hate skinny girls, because then who would skinny girls have to date? But I think I already know your answer. You'd say that if guys didn't like skinny girls, then there would hardly be any skinny girls because girls would strive to be non-thin, sort of like in Renaissance Europe when overweight women were considered attractive (because food was expensive in those days and if a woman was eating a lot guys thought it meant her family had a lot of money). There'd still be a few girls left who couldn't gain weight no matter how much they tried because of metabolism, and supposedly a few guys would take mercy on them or would see past their "thin flaws" and date them anyway. Sort of like how now some guys see past a fat girl's weight flaws and date them anyway. Except in this new pro-fat society you think women would be healthier.
As I already pointed out, I'm not so sure about that, but am I on the right track?
Anyway, to end this and hopefully my participation in this, I won't go so far as to say you owe mendo an apology, but it really does seem like his pro-Uma/Gwyneth/Cameron etc. remarks were all rather light-hearted and you started the angry jabs. I think there are definitely more tactful ways to tell someone you don't approve of what he finds physical attraction than to call him a pedophile.
Lots of harsh words have been spoken here. I doubt that anything I say is going to change the current direction of the mendo/Emerald relationship, but I tried.
09/15/1999: At this point, I feel compelled to quote Freddy Mercury: Posted by: mchristm@cc.edu (Bickle)
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Fat-Bottomed girls make the rockin' world go round.
09/15/1999: Unstable_Isotope
Posted by: no_life@all.tom (mendo)
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thanks... I was going to disregard this thread but then saw your post... I'm one of the least "popular" posters in Crankyland (I'm kind of an asshole sometimes:)) so I hardly ever get any back-up... the thing I liked best about your post is that you followed the thread and saw that I originally meant just light hearted banter...
Oh, well... lesson learned... DO NOT TALK TO EMERALD
thanks again,
.tom
09/15/1999: Emerald and mendo
Posted by: unstable@hotmail.com (Unstable_Isotope)
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Here's the end result of Emerald's attitude in this thread:
http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/intoodeep/56/71.html
I'm sure that wasn't what Emerald was aiming for, but that's what she got. Be careful what you wish for.
mendo: Your lack of popularity does not concern me. I just found the charge unwarrented and borderline absurd, so for once I decided to say something. And I feel much better for having done so, because I'm sure it sucks to be alone, especially when you know you're not.
09/15/1999: You trip me out Em
Posted by: x@x.com (X-MAN)
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I love watching you annoy the shit out of masterless.
09/16/1999: wait a minute..
Posted by: sparkling@aol.com (Emerald)
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Isotope:
.."I'm young single and don't have any kids and don't even hang around any kids and accusing me of being a pedophile would be so silly it's funny! But mendo had kids.."
I didn't know that. I just assumed mendo was single like the rest of us.
Mendo:
question: how am I manipulative? Was it just a word you threw in because it sounded insulting, or for once, was it backed up by your thoughts of me. Pretending you feel sorry for me just makes you look stupid. C'mon man! Back it up with something. I know you can do it!
You calling me fat makes me laugh, not because it isn't true, but that it displays how incredibly ignorant you are/ can be. It's like, when you're in the middle of a fight with a guy, and you call him gay. It's an insult but it's totally irrelevant. I didn't WANT to pick a fight with you, and if you like, we can end it here right now..
..in fact I tried to break the ice with a few lighthearted jokes, but you just became evil mendo again. Whatever dude, you can hate me.
And you know..
...I STILL haven't the faintest idea as to why you're unpopular.
Zing,
--Emerald
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 09/16/1999: Emerald Posted by: r_helper@mailcity.com (Rodent_Helper)
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Since mendo probably isn't going to say anything more in this thread, I just wanted to make a correction: mendo is currently single. But he is older than most Crankylanders and does have adult children. He probably was once married, I don't know. But Unstable's point was that because of mendo's family situation, calling him a pedophile is different from calling most male Crankylanders a pedophile.
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