Limbo
Mr. Cranky's rating:
There are many aspects of this film which merit a groan, a snort, or even hurling a drink at the screen
If you ever want to know why Hollywood makes so many bad movies, all you need to do is sit through this John Sayles film, then evaluate the audience's reaction to the ending. Mind you, Sayles is an independent filmmaker, so one wouldn't expect to see a typical Hollywood ending per se . In addition, Sayles' style wouldn't be expected to appeal to an audience of say, fourteen-year-old girls. However, the groaning I happened to hear at the end came from -- get this -- members of a film society.There are many aspects of this film which merit a groan, a snort, or even hurling a drink at the screen, but the end isn't one of them. Just in case any more film society members are planning on seeing this movie, let me clarify one little thing: The title of the film is "Limbo." It isn't "Film That Ends With Complete Resolution." The definition of "limbo" is "uneasiness and apprehension," so it should be no surprise to anyone capable of tying his own shoes that it ends as it does.
In fact, it's actually somewhat predictable. The main characters are all lost souls who end up stranded. Joe Gastineau (David Strathairn) has frittered away his life in Alaska after accidentally killing two people in a boating accident. When he meets Donna De Angelo (Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio) things start to look up, until they go on a boating trip with Donna's sullen, in-need-of-a-good-slappin' daughter, Noelle (Vanessa Martinez), and Joe's half-brother, Bobby (Casey Siemaszko), and are forced to abandon ship. You'd think Joe would have learned his lesson the first time.
This film resolves itself and betrays its intentions, but film-society members more focused on nose-mining than on the screen may well wander out of the theater thinking it did exactly the opposite. What kind of message does this send to filmmakers? "Let's make movies in which everything is spelled out and nobody will have any questions about anything." Result: People are idiots, and films are made for the masses. What a surprise, then, that most of them suck.
Was it really that bad?
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Life ain't fair (ElMonteSlim)
Life ain't fair (ElMonteSlim)
Repost of my response to discord in "AP2" (CreepFreakLoser)
Is this movie any good? (SadFatMonster)
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest-shit on a stick (lucy_m)
THAT SEVENTIES SHOW is back on TV today. (xyz)
How much does a facelift, chinlift, noselift, and contacts cost? (Masked_Loser)
Top Ten Movies of the Week: June 11-13. AUSTIN POWERS BEATS THE FORCE!!!!! (Mystery_Man)
MOST of them suck?! (JimBob)
Meaningless post #3 (X-MAN)
Meaningless post #2 (X-MAN)
Meaningless post #1 (X-MAN)
Sayles' films are a bore... (Parca_Mortem)
Hey, Richard-- looks like I gave Justice Scalia too much credit! (CreepFreakLoser)
Mmmmm Jack Scalia... (Veruca_Salt)
I agree Creep (X-MAN)
I'm glad the Supreme Court dumped Chicago anti-gang law. (Sammy)
I don't think standing on the sidewalk should be a crime. (grundle)
I'm clearly outraged. (gnosticdogma)
Re: Hey, Richard-- looks like I gave Justice Scalia too much credit! (johnsmith)
Repeat after me, slowly... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
I'm disappointed that Clarence Thomas was one of the dissenters... (grundle)
X-MAN, I can't tell if you're right or not from what RBB said but grundle (CreepFreakLoser)
CFL... (grundle)
Semiautomatic shotgun with the plug removed to get the most shells in...... (johnsmith)
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Re: Hey, Richard-- looks like I gave Justice Scalia too much credit! (johnsmith)
Well, there's a man . . . (Arby_Popinjay)
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Oh, yeah,? Well, you're a poo-poo head, and I don't want to play anymore (johnsmith)
That IS my real name, but I have never answered to "Dick" in my life. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Hey Dick, could I borrow your troll textbook? The dog ate mine. (johnsmith)
If you really were John Smith... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Well, that was . . . (johnsmith)
johnsmith, your ignorance is showing. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Dick ....your slip is showing..... (johnsmith)
I can prove it . . . (johnsmith)
If that's the best you can do... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
People suck (Pompey)
Indeed. Yawn. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Thanks for the quote and the chuck-a-latious comment. . . . (johnsmith)
Yawn. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
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Happy Easter! and to all a good night! (johnsmith)
Damn. Yet another recipe for Dead Horse Pate. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
The Swearin' Guy: Your Opinions, Please. (skilly)
"Limbo Rock" (Zorro)
Wow! I just found this really great article on education... (grundle)
Importance Of Education Given Valuable Lip Service (Masterless)
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Richard... (Eamon_J_Doyle)
Well I agree with grundle's point... (Pussyfur)
Pussyfur (Siren)
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School vouchers and the California Teachers Association... (mendo)
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Re: Teachers, Tests and Standards (and RBB) (Mr_Peabody)
Richard... (grundle)
skilly, Mr. Peabody and Richard (CreepFreakLoser)
for anybody who thinks spending more money will improve public education... (grundle)
Oops! Read this instead. It's better formatted... (grundle)
mendo... (grundle)
grundle, right quick-- (CreepFreakLoser)
I've had a couple of friends who could barely read (Slim_Shady)
Bad teachers (Slim_Shady)
I've got good news and bad news. (gnosticdogma)
The moral of this story..... (The_Redundant_One)
a few things... (grundle)
Richard, I am not dumb enough to fall for your lie... (grundle)
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Mr. Peabody (Richard_B_Bernstein)
My long response to grundle about vouchers and public vs. private education (CreepFreakLoser)
Perhaps grundle could change his name . . . (convenor)
CFL... (grundle)
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Final bit of legal mumbojumbo (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard... (grundle)
Okay, here's one example (convenor)
I can't believe I'm reading this... (skilly)
Richard (Pompey)
Public education (Discord)
Of Course... (Wulfgar010)
discord, dude . . . (convenor)
My problem with vouchers... (Slim_Shady)
I'm confused! (CutThroat)
Racial integration is NOT necessary for academic excellence... (grundle)
I'm surprised that so far nobody has commented on the this... (grundle)
How to improve education (Discord)
Richard, I would like to politely disagree with you... (grundle)
50 years ago (Discord)
50 years ago computer education wasn't necessary to get a good job (CreepFreakLoser)
CFL, I was talking about basic reading and math skills... (grundle)
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Richard (Pompey)
Damn, sometimes I surprise myself. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Shamefaced apology for my defective impersonation of an attack on me. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Sorry CutThroat (convenor)
I have to admit... (Discord)
Richard = Pompey (Pompey)
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Good job, Pumpy! (Discord)
Richard (Pompey)
Now I[m Pompey and Discord (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
I'm harassing myself, folks! Look at that! (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Let me try! (Fierce_Molly)
Richard (Pompey)
And last week *I* was the insane one in Crankyland (CreepFreakLoser)
Answering the only legitimate question in the bunch. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Basically (Fierce_Molly)
Not quite, Molly, but reassuringly close to the mark. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Well, c'mon now... (Fierce_Molly)
Richard (Pompey)
Answering the no win question. (xyz)
Has anyone figured out that I'm Richard yet? (Slim_Shady)
No I am Richard-nt (X-MAN)
I think I've figured molly out (X-MAN)
X-MAN, what do you and Molly supposedly agree on lately about CFL? <NT> (CreepFreakLoser)
Xman (Discord)
The answer is... (Wulfgar010)
CFL... (grundle)
X-MAN (xyz)
I was talking about the first question, btw. (xyz)
I'm not trying to win or lose anything here. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Well, I'm really confusing folks now. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Apt quotation from ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF SOLITUDE (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Wow... (Discord)
Discord (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Discord)
But... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Discord)
Yes, grundle, I read all your posts. I had but one question: (CreepFreakLoser)
Creep (Discord)
Richard (Pompey)
Gee whiz. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
I apologize. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Possible explanation. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Except... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Richard (Discord)
I've figured out what went wrong. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Discord (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
So I said to myself, "Self..." (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Bugs in the subroutine (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Maybe if I address the subroutine directly... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Wow, this really one-sided ... (Rocky_Horror)
Rocky Horror (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Besides... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
"Have you stopped beating your wife?" (Ivan_Leopold)
Richard & Rocky (Pompey)
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X-MAN, that wasn't Molly-- that was Emerald (CreepFreakLoser)
Molly just repeated what Pompey said... (xyz)
CFL... (grundle)
Yup... (Wulfgar010)
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Discord (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Didn't you guys learn anything from "War Games?" (skilly)
The Watergate hotel... (grundle)
I still don't get it. (xyz)
xyz (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Well, hell, Richard. (xyz)
Never mind. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Stop changing the issue, Richard. (xyz)
Ruined Threads (Discord)
Richard (Pompey)
I made a mistake. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
One more thing (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
It's so tiresome talking to oneself or one's handiwork. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Folks, I've tried everything, and the damn subroutine just won't quit. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Oh, my God, without meaning to, I've created an artificial intelligence. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Subroutine Pseudo-Pompey (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Fierce_Molly)
Firece_Molly (Richard_B_Bernstein)
No ICQ? (Fierce_Molly)
Maybe you're talking to the real Pompey. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Down with Richard! Boo! Hissss! (Rocky_Horror)
Richard (Pompey)
Exactly. (Fierce_Molly)
Oops, let's fix that. (Fierce_Molly)
OK. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
addendum (Richard_B_Bernstein)
However, (roo)
Richard (Pompey)
What's wrong with being a liar? (Discord)
Not surprising. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Yeah! Leave Richard alone! (Discord)
Richard (Pompey)
Discord (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Pompey is, too. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Ricahrd (Discord)
Everybody knows? (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Whoa! (Discord)
Richard (Pompey)
Of course, on the other hand, (Discord)
Your repeated accusations are tiresome, the more so because bogus. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
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Richard (Pompey)
JYD (Discord)
What's really sad... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
What's even sadder... (Pompey)
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Could it be... (roo)
What I meant to say was... (roo)
I tend to agree with roo (Discord)
My, how lovely... (Wulfgar010)
Wulfgar (Discord)
Now I'm confused (convenor)
No. (Discord)
Now I'm all better, but . . . (convenor)
I sure did (Discord)
Discord (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Distillation of the lessons of this thread. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
If I didn't know better... (Discord)
The only way to deal with a baseless accusation is to ignore it. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
See http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/limbo/5/182.html [NT] (Richard_B_Bernstein)
That's an interesting theory, Richard (Discord)
Please see http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/limbo/5/182.html [nt] (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Maybe we are all just in the Matrix. (roo)
It's NOT Jason (Junk_Yard_Dog)
More proof Richard is crazy (Pompey)
Yet again, please consult http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/limbo/5/182.html (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Re: au revoir (Junk_Yard_Dog)
JYD (Richard_B_Bernstein)
A French lesson (roo)
or... (roo)
Richard (Discord)
Please, PLEASE read http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/limbo/5/182.html [nt] (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Well, I reread it (Discord)
Tutorial on "hypocrisy" and "liar" for those who misuse the words here (Richard_B_Bernstein)
By the way, reread http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/limbo/5/182.html [nt] (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Definitions (Fierce_Molly)
Fearsome Mooly (Pompey)
Not just Fordice, but . . . (convenor)
convenor (Richard_B_Bernstein)
definition time? OK. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
clarification of previously-provided definition (Richard_B_Bernstein)
consolidated and accurate posting of definition: MONOMANIAC (Richard_B_Bernstein)
I forgot: read http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/limbo/5/182.html [nt] (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Psst! Hey, Richard! (Fierce_Molly)
Well, I tried to redirect the thread (convenor)
Re: Wow! I just found this really great article on education... (tanstaafl)
Richard (Pompey)
duodenum (Pompey)
Pompey, now I am fucking pissed off. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
convenor (Richard_B_Bernstein)
For those lacking historical memory... (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Yes, Pompey, please shut the hell up. (Fierce_Molly)
So Richard.... (Siren)
Siren (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Might I point out... (Siren)
Siren (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Molly & Richard & Siren (Pompey)
Bullshit, Pompey (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Addendum (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Nazis? Circumcision? (Fierce_Molly)
Fierce Molly (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Pompey)
Bullshit, Pompey (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Bah. (Fierce_Molly)
For the record (roo)
"Hogwash," he muttered, for nothing less would do. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
"Neat!" she exclaimed, for nothing less would do. (Fierce_Molly)
for what it's worth (tanstaafl)
Richard, you forgot something (roo)
Hogwash is hogwash. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Hmmm. (Fierce_Molly)
I've tried to stay out of this.... already@home.com (Shakesmear)
It appears to me... (Discord)
This is ridiculous (Siren)
<NT> (CutThroat)
Siren, you're right about one thing. (Richard_B_Bernstein)
Richard (Discord)
Richard... (grundle)
Richard (Pompey)
More for Richard (a second try) (Pompey)
Enough Already! (EnoughAlready)
Richard (Discord)
Discord... you fucked up... (mendo)
Mendo. (gnosticdogma)
gdog... (mendo)
Mendo (Shakesmear)
Shakes... (mendo)
You brought yourself into this, mendo... (Fierce_Molly)
I'm asking that this thread be deleted (Badtz_Maru)
The question is, do you have enough CLOUT? <NT> (CutThroat)
CT (Junk_Yard_Dog)
Mendo (Discord)
Slim (Discord)
Molly... (mendo)
Oh, mendo... (Fierce_Molly)
Words, sentences, and things like that (Pompey)
Repetition annoys me immensely (Badtz_Maru)
Mr. Maru... (Fierce_Molly)
The Colorado Kids in action... (mendo)
Mendo. (gnosticdogma)
mendo (Pompey)
Uhoh, mendo's making me sad. (Fierce_Molly)
Molly... (mendo)
I keep learning new things about myself! (Fierce_Molly)
Molly (Shakesmear)
I'm learning so much about myself today. (skilly)
Correction! (skilly)
Shakes... (mendo)
You heard the man, Shakes. (Fierce_Molly)
Am I poster Y? (Discord)
OK, Molly... (mendo)
OK, mendo... (Fierce_Molly)
Why did Mendo put "win" in quotations? (Discord)
Uncle Tom, you read too much..... com (Shakesmear)
More Corrections! (Pompey)
.tom vs the trolls... (mendo)
Mendo, you work yourself into such a little circle! (Fierce_Molly)
Well, I am lurking here (Junk_Yard_Dog)
not worth the time... (mendo)
Clarification... (Fierce_Molly)
well, at least you're trying to get better at the intimidation part... (mendo)
Mendo, have I told you lately that you're pretty neat? (Fierce_Molly)
OK, Molly... (mendo)
Mendo (Shakesmear)
Is 'pomposity' a word? (mendo)
Pomp and Circumstance (Shakesmear)
Auld lang syne? (Pompey)
:)~~~~~~~~ (mendo)
Nice drawing, Tom (Shakesmear)
The problem with being an ex-hippie (Discord)
Well, I'm glad... (mendo)
Psssssst! Everybody in this thread.... (FerretBoy)
Once more for the slow students (Discord)
Discord, could you repeat that? (Junk_Yard_Dog)
MARGH! (FAT_JEFF)
Re: Wow! I just found this really great article on education... (wsj)
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