Saw III
Mr. Cranky's rating:
If there's an axiom about movies that is mostly true and interesting, it's that films (and particular types of films that get made over and over again within a certain time period) are representative of their era. Welcome to George Bush's America and the "Saw" series.
Quite obviously, horror films didn't just pop up out of nowhere in the last six years, but if there's an axiom about movies that is mostly true and interesting, it's that films (and particular types of films that get made over and over again within a certain time period) are representative of their era. Welcome to George Bush's America and the "Saw" series.
With the revelations of abuse at Abu Ghraib, the Patriot Act, and the recent legislation passed by Congress essentially obliterating the right of Habeas Corpus, the "Saw" series makes sense in its cultural context. Without getting all political about it, simply consider what the "Saw" series is about: average people being pulled off the street, then tried, sentenced and tortured without the benefit of any of the rights accorded American citizens.
There are two ways to look at these films. One can analyze them as true horror films meant to scare people and incorporate a shared fear into a popular entertainment. The other way to look at them, and I fear the much more legitimate way, is as a form of entertainment that reflects cultural values. In the case of "Saw III" that leads to the arresting realization that torture is now apparently considered entertaining. Torture is entertainment. Torture is amusing. In fact, it's most amusing when it's somebody else getting tortured. There is a definite ironic interpretation to the "Saw" series. People watch because it reinforces the notion that torture is something that happens to other people and that those people deserve it. I'd be willing to bet that if some network aired the highlights of interrogation footage from Abu Ghraib on a weekly basis, it would be the smash hit of the television season.
I'm sure there's some logic and some link between this film and the ones preceding it, but frankly, I couldn't remember much. I do remember that Jigsaw (Tobin Bell) was sick, so we find him in this third installment on his death bed. His assistant, Amanda (Shawnee Smith) has kidnapped a doctor, Lynn (Bahar Soomekh), strapped an explosive device around her neck, and demands she operate on Jigsaw. This goes on while a grieving father, Jeff (Angus Macfadyen), runs a gauntlet of torture that has him trying to decide whether or not to let people live or die. All the people played a role in the death of his young son. Jeff has raised the ire of Jigsaw for spending the time after his son's death demanding and/or seeking vengeance and wallowing in grief. You'd think that Jigsaw would have better things to do with his time than torture fathers who've lost their children in tragic fashion.
"Saw III" really is quite representative of the world in which we live:
repetitive, gory and unimaginative, with a morality that is defined by one man. Live according to his sense of right and wrong or suffer the consequences.
Was it really that bad?
You tell us! Discuss "Saw III" in the Mr. Cranky forum below!
Post a New Message in the "Saw III" forum
Messages:
drew! make a myspace account mia_wallace
i now wave "by by" mia_wallace
Two days Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Good news, X-Man, you're on the right track... Mal_Content
So, who wants to explain why C. RDF is gone? TMundo
Here's some Brazilian martial arts you may recognise... TMundo
Cranky MIA's / on the LAM... TMundo
R.I.P. Ed Bradley and Basil Poledouris MR_MUCUS
Isn't it nice that they give X-man a computer in jail? LittleBigGirl
Login is working again FIRSTIES!!! LittleBigGirl
Be sure to get your clown shoes for CRAVE! Rajah
Good Morning boys and girls it's time for The Happy Time Railroad Show!!!! Rajah
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! Rajah
Notice the elections were "clean" since Democrats won? X-Man
NOOOOOO!!!! Libburulls stayys OUTTA MY HOUSSES!!!!!! Mr_Blunderful
K-Fed kicked to the curb via text messaging... The_Innocent_Bystander
Hispanic Friendly Candidates Prevail In Mid-Term Elections. mia_wallace
Democrats good for immigration changes mia_wallace
yeah, i know mia_wallace
I'm only going to do this one, so pleas allow me this indulgence Coaster
TMundo mia_wallace
Illegal aliens getting food stamps. Wonder where your tax dollars go? mia_wallace
I met the girl of my dreams today! X-Man
The rumors are not true. I am not the Hilary Duff stalker. X-Man
Dems beat Macaca, take Senate too. Throwing_Muses
Throwing Muses, you are invited to join Op.- I... TMundo
Dover = Monkeyking... TMundo
Hottie Boss X-Man
27 states now have gay marriage bans X-Man
Buh Bye, Rumsfeld. Chica
Match made in geek heaven: Walken to play Ozzy Parca_Mortem
The now-respectable RidingFool
"Teen Pleads Not Guilty to Stalking (Hilary) Duff" LittleBigGirl
Xie, Baby Hilary_Duff
Lame Duck Soup! Rajah
Demmmm, de-dem-dem... TMundo
Up to date general election info... TMundo
GEARS. OF. FUCKING. WAR. X-Man
A message to X-Man Rajah
Will Lieberman repay the Democrat party that stabbed him in the back? X-Man
Santorum's concession speech. Throwing_Muses
Shocking new CCCP photo surfaces X-Man
Dems win, GOP lose. Throwing_Muses
Have you noticed it's the republicans labeling dems as cut and runners? The_Angry_Negro
BET = Absolute Garbage The_Angry_Negro
2006 Election thread Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Why bother, just read it in the mornin The_Angry_Negro
Hey, just because I've given up on America Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Um, add a "don't" between "I" and "enjoy" Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
At first sip, it seems to loosen up, but then the typos begin to appear... The_Angry_Negro
Yeah, that's the way it usually goes Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Democrats seem to be kicking ass so far. Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
See, run out of wine, here's the vodka... The_Angry_Negro
Blue an Red, there's no black, but no white either The_Angry_Negro
No way! Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
No brown nor yellow, neither Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Democrats win house Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Speaker Pelosi is just going to make X-man sick. Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Yeah, the Democrat leadership is a house of horrors X-Man
Which brings up the question, how do Democrats get so ugly? X-Man
Damn, I missed the Daily Show coverage! Rajah
Uh-oh, voters overturn affirmative action in Michigan. Mr_Nonsense
Gay marriage ban rejected in Arizona. Mr_Nonsense
Ah. Mr_Grumpy
Stupid voters... jen
Oh, but YAY! jen
jen Captain_Lance_Murdoch
I voted Green, Libertarian, and Republican. Captain_Lance_Murdoch
The 'gay marriage' debacle is all a smokescreen RidingFool
Swann? Parca_Mortem
I'm glad the Dems won... M_H
Foley pushed the dems over the top. Mr_Nonsense
A short history of why Jews and Palestinians hate each other... TMundo
So the BORAT film uncovered a lot of stuff, or did it, lets sort it out... TMundo
Hebrew Crunk TMundo
It's the $20 sack Pyramid... TMundo
Here's a great clip from CCCP, hot time at the Mecca... TMundo
And on a lighter note: Britney dumps K-Fed... M_H
Well, I voted democrat across the board... TMundo
Bettors strongly favor Dems to win the House of Representatives Dan_in_Cincinnati
Who voted today? MR_MUCUS
Hey Coaster -- NYT article on new writer for Gilmore Girls tongue
Wake me when it's over Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
And now, negative ads... TMundo
****************** ANNOUNCEMENT ********************** <nt> Coaster
Pics of lovely Mia.........sigh Rajah
Schwartzenegger & Lieber man for 2008!!! Spanky
I will find the identity of Jeff Anderson (You People are Idiots) Monk
He claims to be merely a lurker Monk
He claims not to be X-man Monk
Say Rajah, what time yah comming home for dinner... TMundo
"Operation I" must not be comprimised... TMundo
You think THE WOODCHUCK talks only to Rajah? Monk
Here's how we catch him Monk
Crankyland is really hard to find people from X-Man
Btw,. Monk =Tmundo X-Man
Btw, T has been claiming all along that YPAD and I are the same X-Man
X-Man = YPAD Duffy
Here's a clip of YPAD posting about hilary duff TMundo
Rajah, I mean, Monk. I have good intel that X-man is in fact, a hobo Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Rajah is weak X-Man
TMundo, have you ever seen X-man post a Duff pic using tinyurl? Monk
Tmundo is weak too X-Man
Say, Rajah never mentions tinyurl... TMundo
Jeff Anderson, You People are Idiots, & You People are Dipshits is actually Monk
LOLERS! RidingFool
Monk, that being said, he is also Dover as well... TMundo
Monk is a whimp! Rajah
Join MySpace and find out about operation I. TMundo
Operation O. still in business... TMundo
Fox News: "An army of ten thousand lawyers, mostly Democrat," X-Man
GO TO HELL, ZELL! Rajah
Newest Crankycliche Rajah
So are you demmies feeling confident this election day? X-Man
Wow, I guess I'm public enemy #1. Look at my super annoying post here X-Man
sound familiar? tanstaafl
Duff stalker arrested! fellow_consumer
And now, some Kurtis Blow... TMundo
Crankyland Monday Night Football - 7 p.m. The_Innocent_Bystander
How to make a republican shut-up... TMundo
So this is what news is nowadays... TMundo
New pure pwnage ep is out... Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Yes folks, you too will take home your own consolation prise... TMundo
Ambient Electronic Dub TMundo
What's going on here? bukaball
Chrissy Hein, euro-techno, an orchestra & some stupid film are related how? TMundo
There is no stopping them; the icebergs will soon be here. Throwing_Muses
What commercial does this song appear in? TMundo
Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop, please answer a question Jeff_Anderson
BrokeBlade Mountain TMundo
Borat movie-film, very innacurate The_Russian
finally, you decide tanstaafl
Katzman says my posts are needless spamming. Jeff_Anderson
Potential Best Animated Feature nominees announced. Mad-Ness_Monster
Lance Armstrong finishes NYC marathon. Throwing_Muses
BORAT -- Being an Offensive, Racist, Anti-semetic, Tourist... TMundo
Good Morning boys and girls it's time for The Happy Time Railroad Show!!!! Rajah
So what else should I run out and see? HomeSkillet
The Prestige: anyone seen it yet and if so, what'd you think? <NO SPOILERS> HomeSkillet
Kick it where their hands aren't, Dallas convenor
Crankyland Football League update - 2 p.m. The_Innocent_Bystander
Encouraging Bond News Marion
Saddam "stinky pants" Hussein to be executed firsties Dan_in_Cincinnati
Elephants can recognize themselves in mirrors Rajah
Bush's 2000 speech The_Innocent_Bystander
You do the Hokie pokie and you whomp the Hurricanes convenor
The NEW Office Space movie coming out soon Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Screw TMX Elmo, here's Tickle-Me-Bickle. Mad-Ness_Monster
Anyone heard of Interstellar? Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Female Castration Mal_Content
Naked Man (possibly Conqueror) Arrested for Concealed Weapon Throwing_Muses
Actress Adrienne Shelly Found Dead MR_MUCUS
CNN wrongly labeled Michael Steele as a Democrat. Here's the screen capture Captain_Lance_Murdoch
Baby Pengins singing Grandmaster Flash are haunting my dreams. Mad-Ness_Monster
Whole Foods violates its own "core values" in order to boost its stock valu Captain_Lance_Murdoch
I snapped this pic of Riding Fool Rajah
fyi tanstaafl
Ever get the feeling you're being watched? Rajah
Whoa, Doogie Howser just came out as gay X-Man
Funny youtube X-Man
Riding Fool, lets talk about how FF 2.0's spellchecker sucks X-Man
If there's a Saw IV, can Dick Cheney appear in the water-boarding scene? sonofthedummy
"Matrix" helmers The Wachowski Bros. to direct "Speed Racer" movie... M_H
Typical American family programming X-Man
So it looks like the election is going to go like this X-Man
Why do terrorists support Demorats in America? X-Man
US evangelist admits buying drugs, denies gay sex. Throwing_Muses
Here are some old posts of You_People_are_Dipshits... TMundo
Bob Ney picks up his last paycheck, resigns from House convenor
Borat = 1 joke movie, repeated over and over, and it gets old REALLY fast. 0b1knob
TIB I did respond to your abortion questions Dan_in_Cincinnati
fwiw tanstaafl
So, hopefully, what you're saying is... Mr_Grumpy
tanstaafl why are 98% of the Iraq vets on the Dem ticket? Dan_in_Cincinnati
Re: fwiw tanstaafl
Voters think Dems will take the US out of Iraq Dan_in_Cincinnati
If they say they support dems, the country may go repub, they want that... TMundo
There's two ways to reduce the number of troops in Iraq. Throwing_Muses
Dan, what percent of the military votes Republican? X-Man
Got any evidence to support that? Throwing_Muses
You're a complete dumbass TM X-Man
Nah, I've still got a long way to go to catch up to you, dumbo. Throwing_Muses
They have to vote for Bush Rajah
God, Rajah, don't you ever get tired of being a dumb fuck? MonkeyKing
Oh, and here's an article on Armed Forces voting patterns: MonkeyKing
Heh. Didn't look closely enough... MonkeyKing
Ever get tired of being an arrogant prick? Rajah
I don't understand why anyone who has fought in a war Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
MonkeyKing & Xie jen
Xie church
Pilots misjudge wind, fly into NYC apartment. RidingFool
There must be an Election soon PGM
O.J. Simpson creative consultant on SAW III Spanky
Early stocking filler - Billy Idol's Christmas Album! Throwing_Muses
So, how was everyone's Halloween? Mad-Ness_Monster
Ah well, it was fun while it lasted Jeff_Anderson
PS Coaster, you can come out of hiding now Jeff_Anderson
Wah, wah, wah, boo-hoo! Cry me a river! Ben-Dover-69
So what's wrong with Nazis and pedophiles? RidingFool
There are no guidelines Mr_Cranky
Coaster Replies to You People Are Andersons Coaster
*punches Coaster in the nose* RidingFool
Coaster is right Rajah
Two Points... TMundo
Anderson is right as well. MonkeyKing
I disagree, I'm down for rational discussion, and encorage your opinion... TMundo
Addition to Coaster's post above The_Innocent_Bystander
Check this link and tell me.... TMundo
Don't remember when we gang raped Monket King Rajah
Nothing wrong with differences of opinion... M_H
That's baloney cranky X-Man
And please stay around Jeff X-Man
PS Tmundo I never admitted to being YPAI X-Man
I will admit You People Whatever posts more than Coaster Rajah
TIB, you're not only 180 degrees wrong, but full of shit as well. MonkeyKing
Monkey King, tell me how you really feel! The_Innocent_Bystander
No, ex-man, nobody spams the forums more than you do. Throwing_Muses
Well if we counted, the facts would prove otherwise X-Man
Why would anyone come here for reasonable debate? caerglas
Well no the "facts" obviously wouldn't. Throwing_Muses
X-Man must not make it to Grenadier! Rajah
Crybabies are funny Marion
Yep. Particularly when they whine about ad homs. Prime Mover
And here I thought I missed something. MAYORBOB
TIB, here you go. MonkeyKing
Hee Hee Ha Ha Ha Ha Hee Hee!!!! Rajah
X-man has nearly 10,000 posts Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
Great post Monkeyking Critico
First of all... Junk_Yard_Dog
To answer MayorBob Junk_Yard_Dog
Someone did get Xie's panties in a wad Junk_Yard_Dog
correction to the first of all post Junk_Yard_Dog
The Libertarian Party is a metamorhisis (sp?) from it's origin Junk_Yard_Dog
Re: Riding Fools political opinions don't carry shit RidingFool
HA HA HA HA HA Muke_Necca
About Riding Fool Rajah
Urination for the nation RidingFool
Coaster squealed on you Rajah
Well I for one, would like to welcome our new insect overlords... TMundo
Fuck off ODGMIS X-Man
And see, the people like Marion wont stop taunting Jeff X-Man
Rajah doesn't produce spam! Rajah
There is definitely a tendency towards torture horror as of lately... Parca_Mortem
Linday Lohan: "I'm a slut who sleeps with everyone." MR: "Oh hells yeah..." ModernRonin
Ann Coulter could get 5 years in jail for vote fraud. Captain_Lance_Murdoch
Cranky Survey. Wilhelmina as a girl's name? Yeah, I'm serious. Coaster
Well, I'll name YOU "Benedict Arnold" if you don't shut up. LittleBigGirl
Re: Cranky Survey. Wilhelmina as a girl's name? Yeah, I'm serious. RidingFool
Wilhelmina is a lovely name Rajah
^^^ coward ^^^ RidingFool
^^^Charles Bronson^^^ Rajah
Why give a girl an ordinary name? Rajah
Coaster doesn't like it cause it's German Rajah
LittleBigGirl a fan of 'Dracula'? The_Third_Nipple
Winona Ryder = Lovely Rajah
I'd name my daughter Chattle. Mr_Nonsense
Eerie, I just watched the original "Dracula" this morning (1931) Mad-Ness_Monster
3rd Nipple is correct. And Nonsense, my daughter's real name is Coaster
Actually, we did get it from Dracula (book, not movie) LittleBigGirl
Just because you like it, doesn't mean the kid will : school TMundo
Oh, a coaster/LBG/Rajah thread X-Man
No matter what name you have, you'll get made fun of. LittleBigGirl
I can only imagine Convenor's horror in school, though... LittleBigGirl
Fuckin' Filters- Convenor = D*ick F*aggybum LittleBigGirl
Any name is better than Jeff Rajah
LBG, you've converted me to the idea. Prime Mover
I built mine house upon a rock, RidingFool
AsLongAsYou'reUp? Mad-Ness_Monster
Hmm. I wonder what TLG will have to say? RidingFool
What's in a name? Rajah
Americans are so boring Critico
Really? MonkeyKing
As a boring American... MR_MUCUS
You seemed to enjoy hobo hunting Rajah
I really miss the old-timey names... Oh_Dear_God_Make_It_Stop
The classics... MR_MUCUS
My great-grandmother's name jen
I knew my great grandmother Rajah
Important to think about how the kids at school ill treat her, do so by... TMundo
Need contraception? RidingFool
'I'd be willing to bet Prime Mover
More self-writing legislation from Congress convenor
Another Bushism Bush_Sucks
Letters to God wash-up in New Jersey. Mr_Nonsense
The Bush Administration = Slasher Movie Rajah
Sowell speaks again tanstaafl
as always, you decide tanstaafl
More interesting is where this commentary on Bush's America comes from. Throwing_Muses
a little gem tanstaafl
well said! tanstaafl
Tom Cruise put in charge of the movie studio United Artists... M_H
If you just posted, hit "reload" on your Web browser to see your comments.
Mr. Cranky's Archives
Mr. Cranky's Home Page
Shopping with Mr. Cranky! Earn us operating funds
with every purchase begun from these links!
Get your "Saw III " stuff here!
We earn 5% on every purchase!
DVD
VHS
Soundtrack
Book
Poster
Start all your online shopping trips from the links below and help us live another day! We earn:
5% on all purchases!
25% on all purchases!
5-10% on all purchases!
$9 for new sign-ups!
Mr. Cranky Gear
Mr. Cranky shirts! Caps! And mugs! All at Mr. Cranky's new Cafe Press store!